A Recent view on Nepal Samvat
Dr. Kamal Prakash Malla
Dear Readers,
I published one of the papers by Dr. Kamal Prakash Malla entitled The Relevance of Nepala-Samvat ( The link to this article is
http://rajshrestha2002.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-relevance-of-nepala-samvat.html .) in this blog on the eve
of Nepal Samvat New year 1133. This paper was published in 1982 and in the last
three decade little has been done in the field of research on Nepal Samvat and
Shankhdhar.
Here is Dr.
Malla's recent view on Nepal Samvat which has been expressed in a letter
written by him to Dr. Bal Gopal Shrestha
For more clarification for the readers, I have also included the letter to me by him.
For more clarification for the readers, I have also included the letter to me by him.
- Raj Shrestha
Letter to me by Dr. Kamal Prakash Malla.
Raj Shrestha Bhaju,
It was no small surprise for me to notice that you posted my paper on the relevance of Nepala-samvat published in 1982. The paper represents my early views.some of which need revisiting in the light of later findings and research done in the field.
In the last three decades very little serious work has been done in this field.. The Newah Dey Dabu invited research proposals. The Government promised Rs 2 lakhs but no credible proposal was submitted.
I am sending you two texts which clarify where I stand on this issue. As everthing I want to say or have said is not contained in a single paper, for the time being I am enclosing a letter I wrote to a
colleague on a draft he sent me for comments.
Since 1980 I have written scores of letters to students, researchers, colleagues and authors who wanted me to review what they have written. This critical role is not visible, Nor. Is it acknowledged
If I have some more time I will sort out the correspondence files and post some of them in my web page is not elegant, but you can find some samples of such letters and comments..
Enclosed Is the second half of my comments on a book on Nelpala-samvat edited by Prem Shanti Tuladhar and Nareshbir Shakya. They compiled. " 22 best essays written by Nepali scholars" and a
bibliography on Nepal-samvat compiled by Sugata Ratna Sindhurakar. It was publiished by the New Year Celebrations Committee, NS 1130. I will search for the first half and if I can trace it I will post it.
The texts don't have diacritics marks because I am not sure whether your web site can load diacritics.
Sincerely,
It was no small surprise for me to notice that you posted my paper on the relevance of Nepala-samvat published in 1982. The paper represents my early views.some of which need revisiting in the light of later findings and research done in the field.
In the last three decades very little serious work has been done in this field.. The Newah Dey Dabu invited research proposals. The Government promised Rs 2 lakhs but no credible proposal was submitted.
I am sending you two texts which clarify where I stand on this issue. As everthing I want to say or have said is not contained in a single paper, for the time being I am enclosing a letter I wrote to a
colleague on a draft he sent me for comments.
Since 1980 I have written scores of letters to students, researchers, colleagues and authors who wanted me to review what they have written. This critical role is not visible, Nor. Is it acknowledged
If I have some more time I will sort out the correspondence files and post some of them in my web page is not elegant, but you can find some samples of such letters and comments..
Enclosed Is the second half of my comments on a book on Nelpala-samvat edited by Prem Shanti Tuladhar and Nareshbir Shakya. They compiled. " 22 best essays written by Nepali scholars" and a
bibliography on Nepal-samvat compiled by Sugata Ratna Sindhurakar. It was publiished by the New Year Celebrations Committee, NS 1130. I will search for the first half and if I can trace it I will post it.
The texts don't have diacritics marks because I am not sure whether your web site can load diacritics.
Sincerely,
Kamal P. Malla
California
USA..
California
USA..
Nepals-samvat va Shankhadhara, Sakhwa : A collection of writings by several writers. Edited by Premshanti Tuladhar and Nareshbir Shakya for the New Year's Celebration Committee, Nepala-bhasha Mankah Khalah, NS 1127.
A Review by Kamal P. Malla
A Review by Kamal P. Malla
In the
last several decades, there has been little serious research on the tradition
and historicity of Nepalasamvat. The latest volume, edited for the Nepal Bhasha
Mankah Khalak New Year Celebrations Committee by Prem Shanti Tuladhar with
Naresh Bir Shakya,.is not too clear about its editorial objectives. The editors
do not specify their aims, nor do they give the sources, or dates of their
publication.
Almost all
the 61 pieces are old and dated, with hardly anything new to say. The arguments
are weak, repetitive
and feeble in logic. The strategic focus of the movement is in widening the
day-to-day use of the
Nepalese style calendar, both in personal life as well as in public life. Only
usage can keep the calendar alive. If we don't use it in practice no amount of
noise can revive it.
We don't
know the name of the samvat when it was founded because it began to be called Nepalavatsara
only since year 148, and its association with Shankhadhara was
as late as year 811. There is no historical document earlier than the
19th-century Bhasa Vamsavalis,
such as the one edited by Daniel Wright in 1877, compiled at the time of
Bhimsen Thapa, that associate the epoch-era with Shankhadhara.
The
arguments that it was a national epoch-era because it is lunar etc., are
ill-founded as tithi was discovered
four thousand years before Christ in Babylon! Similarly, there is no such thing
as "Newar astronomy"; all the five elements of it, the pancanga,
are Indian in origin. Although there are about 31 samvats in
South Asia, all of them use the same units of time-computation, depending upon
whether it is mid-night
to midnight, sun-rise to sun-rise or ending moment of a tithi
to another tithi depending
upon the phases
of the Moon.
There are
too many elementary mistakes in the articles included in the above publication,
including Prem Shanti's
own claim(e.g., Amsuvarma founded the Manadev Samvat "to show loyalty to
King Manadeva" p. 226) Or, the Kaiser Vamshavali is not written in
palmleaf as Manik Lal Shrestha says (p. 220), it is paper thyasaphu.
Some of
the articles should not have been included (e.g., Jyapu Pancha, Ashok Shrestha
or Shyam Sunder Rajvamshi's). They do more harm than any good to the cultural
movement.
There are
also mutually contradictory statements among the writers. For example, some say
NS was founded on
Tuesday others say on Thursday, October 20, 879 A.D. Some give wrong ending
moment of the tithi, Karttika Sukla
Pratipada ( K.B. Udaya)
As
I have shown it conclusively in my elaborately argued paper (Contributions
to Nepalese Studies, Vol 32 No 1 January 2005, pp.1-49) there
was no "Manadev Samvat”.
Manik Lal
Shrestha says that the earliest dated inscription of Nepal is dated Samvat 386
when we already have the
Jayavarma Statue dated Samvat 108!
Bhuvan lal
Pradhan has been arguing that there were three Anandadevs in ancient-medieval
Nepal whereas there never were more than two. There was no Anandadeva ruling in
Bhaktapur in A.D. 879 as the kingdom was founded only in 11th century A.D.
Sugatratna
Shindhukar's list of articles published on Nepala-samvat since the 1980s is far
from complete. It doesn't include numerous publications issued by the New
Year's Day Celeberations Committees and leading publications such as . Kohity,
Bhintuna, Palistha, Deshyamaru Jhya etc. For reasons
none too clear to me he didn't include my paper entitled "The Relevance of
Nepala-Samvat", published in the New Year's Day
Souvenir, the Ganga Club, November 1982, pp. 1-4,
nor does he include an elaborate interview I gave to Palistha
in NS 1124.
A much
more cogent, impressive and relevant publication could have been brought out by
the New Year Celebrations
Committee with so much resources and so many well-wishers at hand. The Newa Dey
Dabu advertized
for research proposals. A few were submitted, but none too credible. So the
funds promised by the
Govement had to be returned.
Although
the Newars have been publicly celebrating the New Year's Day every year since
Cwasa Pasa initiated
it 57 years ago in NS 1074 there is no credible publication on Nepala-samvat so
far.
Coming back to the publication, there are a number of factual inaccuracies.
- For instance, the epoch era was NOT called "Nepala-samvat" before the year 148, it was simply called "Samvat" to begin with. It was mentioned as "Nepala-vatsara" in a manuscript dated Samvat 148, now in the collection of S.K. Saraswati of Calcutta (See Petech, 1984),
- Its association with the name of Shankhadhara is not attested before Samvat 827, when it was mentioned as "Sakhwa Samvat". The first inscription to mention Shankhadhara explicitly comes as late as Samvat 957, in Patan Tichhu Galli.,
- The first printed Nepalese almanac, the so-called "dhunge-paatro", goes back to 1884. Its author Dharmadutta Sharma (the late Ravindra, Natha Sharma's grand-father) does not mention the name . But a, printed almanac to mention the name of Shakhadhar was dated NS 1024/AD, 1904 (See Levi, 1901-4).
- Dr Diwakar Acharya of the Nepal Research, Centre has recently published a colophon, dated Samvat 766, in which, the epoch era is mentioned as "Shaknudutta Samvat". In the 19thcentury "Bhasha Vamshavalis" I have examined (some 20 or so, including the Hodgson Collection in the British Library), the name, of the founder is also confusing---from Saphaa, Saakhaa, Shankha to Shankhadhara.
- The legend of its foundation too is not consistent. All that we know for sure is that the epoch era was founded at the time of Raghavadeva, on Tuesday, October 20, 879. The later vernacular chronicles, compiled between 1829-1880s, narrate the commonplace legend of the transformation of sand-into-gold.,
- The only reliable archaeological evidence we have is the stone statue said to be of Shankhadara --the retail trader, originally standing by the south gate of Pashupati temple. There is also a caitya in , Madu-khyo, Kathmandu said to have been built by him. So was he a Buddhist or was he a Hindu? How did a retail trader make so much money so that he could cancel everyone's debts----the traditional story is not all too convincing.
- Not long ago, I discovered a stone-pillar in Sina-mangala, on the way to Sanothimi, near the Pepsi-cola factory, a 10-12 ft tall slender, roughly-hewn stone-pillar, now worshipped as a Siva-linga equipped, with an iron trisula. Originally, this is said to have been used as, a "weighing scale" to weigh the debt documents, paid off by Shankhadhar's generosity.
- Sinaa-mangala is, of course, a popular corruption of Sanskrit, Shila-mugala, or stone pillar. I searched and found that pillar out, on the basis of the precise directions given in a Nepali, vamshavali, published in Ancient Nepal, its original is now housed in the Kaiser Library. This modern chronicle is copied at the turn of the century.,
- The authentic document explaining Chandra Shumshere's motives for adopting Vikrama -samvat is Jaggannatha and Vaijanath Sendhain's versified panegyric, entitled Candra-may=kha (Nirnayasagar Press, Bombay:1913, page 87), where there are three laconic verses, explaining how the State benefits from such a measure and how Chandra's calendar reform of "tithi into miti" had finally rid the country of the confusions of lunar tithi, 13-month year and dark half and bright half of a lunar month.,
- The lunar calender was invented by Babylonians in ca. 4000 BC. It was brought to the Indus Valley by the nomadic Indo- Aryans in about 1350, BC. Unlike the solar calender ( in which a civil day is calculated from mid-night to mid-night or from a sun-rise to another sunrise), the lunar calendar is based on the phases of the Moon or periods of "lunation" which in Hindu calendar is called " tithi". Its duration is totally inconsistent and unpredictable so that a tithi may end and another begin at any moment, any second, in a solar day.
- This gives rise to the problem of deciding WHEN does a tithi end. In order to know the ending moment of a tithi (which is the most crucial for calculation), one has to carry a pocket almanac, as it were, since it is simply unpredictable!,
- Secondly, a tithi may span longer or shorter than a solar/civil day.
- Thirdly, a tithi may be doubled or lost. The same civil day may contain more than one tithi.
- Fourthly, in order to adjust the two reckonings, every two-and-a-half year, there has to be an intercalary month, or additional lunar month, because the lunar year is shorter by 11.25 days than the solar year. This also gives rise to the problem of a "lost lunar month". As lunar calendar is so fraught with practical problems it is not adopted as official one by any modern government in the world. However, it is still the RITUAL calendar in India, China and Islamic countries all over the world.
- As far as I know, the first PUBLIC celebration of Nepala-samvat was organized by Cwasa Pasa in 1954 at Hanuman Dhoka where celebrities like Sardar Narendra Mani Acharya Dixit and Bal Krishna Sam were present. It was here that Sam said that he would start using it "from tomorrow" (See Paasaa, Souvenir Issue, No 4). I hope Prime Minister Comrade Puspa Kamal Dahal 'Prachanda's, commitment is not going to be yet another "tomorrow"-syndrome!,
Very good.
ReplyDeleteनेपाल सम्वत् यात छ्येलिगु व व्यबहारलय् गथ्ये याना हयेगु धका गठन जुगु उच्चस्तरीय आयोगया दुज:ले पात्रो (पंचाङ्ग) निर्णय समितिया विद्वान दुज:, नांजापिं (नां चलेजुपिं) ज्योतिष व नांजापिं पंण्दित व विद्वत वर्ग (विशेषज्ञ) पिंदुगु आयोग गठन मजुस्यें खालि सरकार पाख्यें झारू तारये यागु उद्द्येस्यं थुगु विषये छुन्हं स्वापू मदुपिं साधारण मन्हुत्: दुगु आयोग गठन यागु जुया नितीं ह्ये उगु नां जक्कया उच्चस्तरीय आयोग पाख्यें छुं नं थ्वोस निर्णय याये मफुगुलिँह्ये ग्यसुलागु प्रतिवेदन पेश याह्ये मफुगु जुयाह्ये हाक्कन् विशेषज्ञ व विद्वान तयेगु सहभागिता ले मेगु उच्चस्तरीय आयोग गठन जूई मागु धापू लिस्यें सिर्फ स्वो ध्हो जक्क दुगु सुझाव व प्रतिवेदन नेपा सरकार यात ल:ल्हागु जुया च्वोन्:! अथ्ये जुसा छु नेपाल सम्वत् व्यबहारलय् गथ्ये याना हयेगु धका गठन जुगु उच्चस्तरीय आयोगया दुज: पिन्सं दच्छिं मयाक्क विका यागु निर्णय थ्वोह्ये ख:ला ?
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नेपाल सम्वत् यात छ्येलिगु व व्यबहारलय् गथ्ये याना हयेगु धका गठन जुगु उच्चस्तरीय आयोगया दुज:ले पात्रो (पंचाङ्ग) निर्णय समितिया विद्वान दुज:, नांजापिं (नां चलेजुपिं) ज्योतिष व नांजापिं पंण्दित व विद्वत वर्ग (विशेषज्ञ) पिंदुगु आयोग गठन मजुस्यें खालि सरकार पाख्यें झारू तारये यागु उद्द्येस्यं थुगु विषये छुन्हं स्वापू मदुपिं साधारण मन्हुत्: दुगु आयोग गठन यागु जुया नितीं ह्ये उगु नां जक्कया उच्चस्तरीय आयोग पाख्यें छुं नं थ्वोस निर्णय याये मफुगुलिँह्ये ग्यसुलागु प्रतिवेदन पेश याह्ये मफुगु जुयाह्ये हाक्कन् विशेषज्ञ व विद्वान तयेगु सहभागिता ले मेगु उच्चस्तरीय आयोग गठन जूई मागु धापू लिस्यें सिर्फ स्वो ध्हो जक्क दुगु सुझाव व प्रतिवेदन नेपा सरकार यात ल:ल्हागु जुया च्वोन्:! अथ्ये जुसा छु नेपाल सम्वत् व्यबहारलय् गथ्ये याना हयेगु धका गठन जुगु उच्चस्तरीय आयोगया दुज: पिन्सं दच्छिं मयाक्क विका यागु निर्णय थ्वोह्ये ख:ला ?
ReplyDeleteनेपाल सम्वत् व्यबहारमा ल्याउन गठित उच्चस्तरीय आयोगको सदस्यहरु मा पंचाङ्ग निर्णय समितिका विद्वान सदस्यहरु, नाम चलेका ज्योतिष यवम् विद्वत वर्ग (विशेषज्ञ) हरु नभई साधारण व्यक्ति हरुको संलग्नता भएको कारण वाट कुनै ठोस् निक्योल आउन नसकेको हुँदा फेरी विशेषज्ञ को टोलि सहितको अर्को उच्चस्तरीय आयोग गठन हुनु पर्ने माग सहितको तिन हरफ को सुझाव मात्र राखेर नेपाल सरकार समक्ष प्रतिवेदन पेस गरियो ! त्यसो हो भने नेपाल सम्वत् व्यबहारमा ल्याउन गठित उच्चस्तरीय आयोगको गठन भई बर्सौं सम्मन उक्त आयोगले के काम गर्यो त् ?
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